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    Castle, Easy, rounds 3-46. One each of a Dartling & a Super Monkey. No Upgrade Limits. 1 Life. $851 starting cash, $100 MM reward. By: onlinegamer321

  • #2
    Yay, I joined the accepted daily challenge club! I feel so special. This one was really fun to test, and hopefully it provides enough of a challenge for you guys. I completed this one NAPS. (Not luck based at all. Very repeatable.)

    Last edited by onlinegamer321; 01-12-17, 04:17 AM.
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    • #3
      Does "Dos Vacas" remind me of anything?
      If I can complete any Daily Challenge NAPS, then it should be extremely easy to complete.

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      • #4
        When translated, this means "Two Cows". I don't get it.
        , ,
        Originally posted by Cupid Monkey
        I love you Bloons. So much, that I want to pop you.

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        • #5
          What do Super Monkeys and Dartlings have in common that refer to anything related to cows?
          If I can complete any Daily Challenge NAPS, then it should be extremely easy to complete.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by qwertyxp2000 View Post
            What do Super Monkeys and Dartlings have in common that refer to anything related to cows?
            Nothing. Cows are just awesome.
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            • #7
              this DC is not NAPSable, periord. When I tried NAPS I managed to only reach round 18, and I don't see it possible afterwards. A 2/1 Dartling with a lot of micro couldn't really do it, and against the further rounds it will obviously fail. If you say it's NAPSable, then post a NAPS solution, step by step.

              I suggest a Nerf - increase lives to 200 and increase tower limit to 2 of each.

              difficulty: N/A/10
              Enjoyability: N/A/10 (You can't even do half the challenge NAPS)

              edit: Round 31 failed with 3/2 dartling and 0/2 super at distance. I think it says A LOT.

              Also I failed multiple times using premiums and Specialties. It Must get nerfed.
              Last edited by sniper 355; 01-12-17, 05:09 PM.
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              • #8
                This is frustratingly hard. I tried with a bush at the end before I could afford the Super, which at least gives you a bit of leeway on the early rounds, but 35 is incredibly difficult and I haven't passed it yet.

                edit: Sniper, 31 is definitely doable NAPS actually. 2-2 Dartling and 0-1 Super at the end. Kill one side first and obviously take out regens ASAP.

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                • #9
                  I appreciate the fact that you wanted to bring a fun challenging daily into the mix. Welcome to the club.

                  I think the dislikes of your challenge result from the following frustrations:
                  a) one of the most hated/difficult tracks
                  b) forced micro-management
                  c) forced use of dartling gun -- something many people notoriously have difficulty controlling (it's one thing when it's a supportive tower, but for half the challenge it's the only tower)
                  d) 1 life on a challenge that requires micromanagement -- (I can't tell you how many times I got to levels 18-20 only to have the bloons swarm together at the end and a red leaked)
                  e) no possibility of multiple solutions

                  If you don't want people frustrated with your daily, I'd recommend tempering some of the list above.

                  I originally was going to come to your defense and say that a bloonsberry bush can make all the difference, and since the challenge awards $100, that would be ok with me. But I couldn't even do it with the bloonsberry bush and the dartling specialty building, as another user tried and failed too.

                  Finally I blew it up with a Doomsday Device, and even then something almost snuck through.

                  Sadly, the net $200 loss of Monkey Money was less frustrating than trying this daily again from level 3.

                  Sorry to be so negative, I am sure you're proud of your challenge getting accepted. I just wanted to explain my and others' frustrations.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sniper 355 View Post
                    this DC is not NAPSable, periord. When I tried NAPS I managed to only reach round 18, and I don't see it possible afterwards. A 2/1 Dartling with a lot of micro couldn't really do it, and against the further rounds it will obviously fail. If you say it's NAPSable, then post a NAPS solution, step by step.

                    I suggest a Nerf - increase lives to 200 and increase tower limit to 2 of each.

                    difficulty: N/A/10
                    Enjoyability: N/A/10 (You can't even do half the challenge NAPS)

                    edit: Round 31 failed with 3/2 dartling and 0/2 super at distance. I think it says A LOT.

                    Also I failed multiple times using premiums and Specialties. It Must get nerfed.
                    This very much is NAPSable, and I gave Aaron a guide when I submitted it. I'm sure he could beat it without a problem. If in a few hours if no one has figured it out, I will give a hint or 2. Also, if you are having that much trouble, I would recommend moving your dartling gun.

                    I love this challenge.
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                    • #11
                      Copy and paste the guide here. It should not take long to type out the levels and the upgrades. It's only two towers.

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                      • #12
                        I'll just post this here. A very good player, and even he couldn't do it NAPS and used SML.
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                        • #13
                          sniper 355 Wow, that's pretty impressive considering how he wasn't using a good dartling spot!

                          ​​​​​​​I wanted to give someone else a chance to figure this challenge out NAPS, but given the lack of solutions I guess I will give some help. Here is how I upgraded the towers.

                          Dartling: 0/0 -> 1/0 -> 1/1 -> 2/1
                          Super: 0/0
                          Dartling: 2/2
                          Super: SELL
                          Dartling: 3/2
                          Super: 0/0 -> 1/0 -> 2/0
                          Dartling: Sell before round 46
                          Super: Sell before round 46
                          Super: 2/3
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                          • #14
                            Hint #2:

                            This challenge is not incredibly difficult, and does not require super intense dartling aim. Almost all of the rounds can be completed on fast forward with minimal mouse movement. If you find yourself chasing bloons around the screen, you need to rethink your dartling location.
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                            • #15
                              After a long, LONG time, I've FINALLY been able to beat this challenge successfully. I wouldn't be surprised if this took over 100 attempts to do because of the ridiculous aiming and 1 life requirements. Hey, anything to prove my friends wrong.




                              Judging by onlinegamer's overview of how to upgrade the towers, it seems like he used a strat requiring a lot more luck in the early rounds (but I am operating off of assumption, so if OG could share his dartling spot and it isn't the one I'm thinking of then I'll concede). My approach requires very, very little luck--if any--but of course you still have to deal with intense dartling aiming from time to time.




                              3. 0/0 Dartling (red circle)
                              During 4. 1/0
                              During 7. 1/1
                              During 12. 2/1
                              During 16. Pop a few bloons, then sell the dartling. 0/0 Super ASAP (green circle).
                              20-23. 0/0 Dartling (blue circle). Upgrade it to 1/0 and then 1/1. Be careful with the aiming here, as you want to prioritize popping pinks and yellows before moving on to other blacks and whites.
                              27. Dartling to 1/2
                              29. Dartling to 2/2
                              30-32. The advice on 20-23 applies here and on 28. Do as much damage to the pinks and yellows inside rather than just breaking open all lead/zebra layers as fast as possible. (32 needs no manual aiming except when the leads come.)
                              35. Sell super, Dartling to 3/2
                              During 38. 0/0 Super (pink circle)
                              39. Super to [Strong]
                              During 40. Super to 1/0
                              43. Super to 2/0
                              46. Sell both towers. 2/3 Dartling (red circle). Start the round, and pay close attention to which side the MOAB comes out from. Whichever path it comes out on, quickly place a 2/0 Super in the corresponding purple circle.
                              47. Celebrate the fact that you don't need to waste any more of your life trying to beat this challenge. Then proceed to realize that you still have Sextuple P to figure out.
                              Last edited by The Mochinator; 28-06-18, 04:23 AM.
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